It’s over. It’s all really over. So we locked ourselves in the Grantland podcasting studio to discuss American Idol‘s Two-Part Finale Not-So-Spectacular, reflect on the Emotional Journey we’ve been on since late January, and muse about where the show might be headed in the future. (Short version: If they don’t fire some judges and figure out a way to restrict the 132 million votes cast by females under the age of 17, we’ll probably be in for another rough season next year.) We also apologize to Phillip Phillips for some of the things we said about him. We’re sure he’s about to take over the world with his chill vibes.

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